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Drew

I heard Shron's lines as: "You never even asked why."

Trapper Markelz

I just rewatched it and it definitely is:

"And you ask why?"

Watching it again it even seems that she pulls some Jedi action on him or something. She is so calm... its as if she knows she can get out of the situation at any moment. Strange stuff.

adamv

I'm worried about the Earth scene. Signifigantly limiting the technological abilities of the colonials was a great way to ensure consistency. I'm afraid that this is going to become a kind of "technology that can do anything" for the writers.

Also, if they all left Kobol to go to their various colonies, how did they build that place on Kobol?

Jarisha

Hi again -
I'm the crazy "Adama is a Cylon" guy. Almost everyone - including my wife - immediately assumed that Adama stopped strangling Sharon because he is still recovering from his wounds.
I, however, take this to be yet another indication that Adama is a deep Cylon operative who has gone "rogue" (joined the other side, as Sharon has). Attempting to strangle Sharon makes his own throat constrict? Why his throat? He was shot in his chest! Indeed, rather than show the expected weakness, he has recovered from his wounds very, very quickly. Yet another indicator of his Cylon-ness?
My theory is that he was possibly the first human model. As with any unknown technology, precautions would have been programmed into him. One of those could well have been for him to experience the effects of any direct, unprovoked attacks that he personally carries out on another Cylon. Now, before anyone else says it, I will: Sharon's not the first Cylon he's attacked directly. However, if you go back and look at the mini-series (as I just have), you'll see that he's defending himself; the other Cylon attacked him first.
Watching the mini-series, I also noticed how quickly Adama caught on that Cylons could look human. The only clue was that the guy looked a little sick. The "Cylons can look human" concept is something that everyone else seems to have a problem grasping, but Adama makes the connection immediately. A little too quickly.
While it's still not proof positive, I have started to see more and more indications that Adama is, indeed, a Cylon.
Convenient that Baltar never got around to finishing Adama's test, isn't it?
I know, I know. But we'll see...

Jarisha

Oh, one more thought on this episode. Unrelated to Adama being a Cylon. When will Baltar realize that Sharon must remember that he told her about his test not failing: that he lied about the results for his own reasons? Of course, not many would listen to her right now, but still...
Also, why did Sharon have to be told that the other Sharon had been murdered? She would have remembered that, surely? I have no good explanation. Selective memory loss? I guess being murdered would be tramatic. I guess I would supress that memory. Best I can come up with.

Trapper Markelz

Adamv - I too am worried about the technology on Kobol. I was hoping for a more Raiders of the Lost Arch style unveiling with the crystals in the head of the arrow... I guess not.

Jarisha - I am completely waiting for some black mail from Sharon. Not only is Baltar going to have to run around as Six's little whipping boy... but he is going to have to walk an amazingly fine line with Sharon. Although it is still clear what Sharon remembers and doesn't remember. For instance she was unaware of how she was killed (or seemed to be).

Zot

Adama represents humanity's struggle with the concept of identity in a very important way to the story. I sincerely doubt that the writers plan to shock us with the revelation that Adama is a Cylon. It would take way too much away from the meaning of his character.

As a side note, this also reminds me an awful lot of the other role that Edward James Olmos played in a sci fi about human identity: Gaff in Bladerunner. If you're familiar with the Director's cut of this seminal movie, you'll know that Gaff has the ability to identifiy "Replicants", the genetically engineered non-humans who rebel against their human creators.

The shock that Gaff (subtly) revealed was that Deckard was a Replicant. Even though I regard Bladerunner as the best of its genre just as I regard BSG as the best on TV, I don't think it's plausible to consider Adama being a Cylon in this story.

Why? It just wouldn't make a lot of sense. We know that the Cylon silence after the Cylon War lasted 40 years -- the time they used to develop humanoid Cylons. Adama is clearly in his mid 50s, so was born prior to this time. And if he's the first humanoid Cylon, how did he successfully reproduce? Apollo and his dead brother were both Adama's sons.

Trapper Markelz

I think "Adama" being a Cylon comes from the phrase that Leobon used... and it is said that he mixes truth and lies... realistically if there is a bit of truth and "Adama" is a Cylon I lean towards Lee or maybe bringing Zack back to life as a clone... that would be the kind of misdirection I would expect from this show.

The Box

I'm just worried about the whole reset button factor.
I mean, last season had WAY more consequences. If you did something bad, you paid for it. This episode was a bit too neat for me.

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